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Balancing holidays, family, and a relationship

Hope Answers:

You both raised a LOT of valid issues!

The Wife Comes Before Family and Friends

On the one hand, I agree with Sue that the most important relationship is the marriage. The wife should come before family or friends, without question. In the Bible it states that the husband should leave his father and mother and cleave (or be joined to) his wife. That means that the husband and wife are a new, separate family and should make choices independently about important issues in their lives. That does not mean, however, that your family (and friends) are no longer important, or that you should not take their feelings or desires into account.

Sue comments, "I cannot marry my fiancée if I have to worry about the rest of my life complying with what is best for his parents and siblings and friends, with what I feel is no regard for my needs/wants and opinions..is this a control issue I have and should correct?"

You're Marrying Into His Family

Charlie There is an alternative to compromise. 

While you are right in wanting to be #1 in his life, you will definitely have to make compromises to live peacefully with his family. When you marry Bob, you are marrying his family too because your husband has a right to want to spend time with them. It is also healthy to maintain friendships outside of the marriage, so there will be times when you will have to support him on important family matters, or allow him some time to spend with his friends, even when you don't want to. And if you don't get along with his family, that will be uncomfortable. Living with your family -- and in-laws -- is a fact of life that needs to be dealt with on an ongoing basis. This issue will never just "go away."

How Will You Feel Once You Are Married?

To Bob, I say that if you are bothered and concerned about "your" income going to support your future wife, how will you feel about it once you are married? By marrying her, you are surrendering everything for the good of your family; it will not be "your" income, but yours and your wife's. What will happen when you have children? Sharing everything you own is a fact of married life, so don't get married until you can accept that.

You also need to honestly look at your relationship and determine if you can live with Sue's personality, relationship style, and family values for the rest of your life.

You said,

"I have seen these traits in her deteriorate since we first started going out to where she does little else than watch TV and play on the computer anymore. In part I feel that she has become too dependent on me, whereas she was a very independent person before I entered her life."

Is there something you can do to bring that sparkle back? To help her regain some of the independence she once had, if in fact she wishes to become more independent and outward-focused again? Is this perhaps indicative of her true personality? If so, can you accept that?

Having said that, here are the two main problems I see woven throughout your stories:

Basic Incompatibility

1.  It seems that you have a basic incompatibility on several levels: family interaction styles, social styles, personality, religion, among others.

These issues will have to be dealt with the rest of your lives and will be guaranteed to come up over and over again. The question you must both ask yourselves is whether or not there is a set of compromises you can come up with that you are both willing to live with. If there are no workable and realistic solutions in your eyes, then you are saying that "having it my way" would be better than being married (in which case you are not ready for marriage anyway, at least not to each other).

Intense Feelings Are Not Enough; You Need Commonality

Having intense feelings for each other is not enough to create a good marriage.

There needs to be some commonality of beliefs, ways of handling conflicts, and goals and aspirations in life. It seems like the two of you are heading in different directions, have different ideas about what you want your life to be like, how you want to spend your time (and with who), how you want to raise a family, and how you want to relate to your families.

Religious Differences

You both also mentioned your religious differences. This will turn out to be a significant point of difference in your marriage, as it flavors your views on many aspects of your lives together (and you can't hide it from your family forever...). If you intend to get married, all of these issues need to be aligned somehow -- through either of you making fundamental changes in your lives or through compromise. If there are some issues that you are unable to compromise on because you feel so strongly about them (i.e., certain religious or family beliefs), or because they are firmly rooted in your basic personality and identity, then you need to examine the feasibility of a successful marriage.

Selfishness

2. Each person is more concerned with getting his or her needs met than with serving and bending for the other.

In addition to making compromises and value assessments on what things can truly change in your relationship, you will each need to learn how to look out for each others' interests and needs, and not just for yourselves.

Focus On Your Partner

Charlie Don't focus on the other person; focus on the core values that you want in the relation ship.

What I am about to suggest may sound impossible, but try it, even if only for a month: if you take your eyes off yourself and try to focus on loving and caring for the other person's needs, this will create a more peaceful and giving climate in your home that will enable both of your needs to be met more effectively. You see, we often get it backwards; we think that we have to look out for ourselves -- "take care of #1."  But that attitude only creates division, bickering, and selfishness.

Look To God For Fulfillment

God wants us to look out for the interests of others and to be a "servant" to all, without expecting anything in return. If both of you learn to adopt this attitude and look to God to fulfill your desires and needs, you will be amazed at how the other person will respond to your selfless acts by reciprocating some kindness in return. There is something about focusing on others that makes us think less about our own problems, wants, and needs, giving us the joy and contentment that we were seeking in the first place.

Get Counselling

 

Finally, I suggest that you enroll in a good premarital counseling program where the issues you raised are explored and dealt with before you get married. Such a program will help you to determine if you are able and willing to overcome your incompatibilities.

Be Honest

But you must be honest with yourselves. If you are not honest about it now and go along with something that you really cannot accept for the rest of your life, then the truth will eventually come out and cause bigger issues down the road.

Hope

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